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Episode 22 Intro: The Hidden Risk in AI-Enabled Hiring with Thor Hesselberg, Founder of Workid.ai

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The Safety Edge Podcast explores leadership and safety where real work happens. Through focused, reflective conversations, we examine how leaders think and act under pressure, and how pausing to question assumptions can strengthen everyday decisions.

If you’re responsible for leading people through complexity, uncertainty, and risk, this podcast is for you.

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Episode 22: Credentials Aren’t Competence: The Hidden Risk in AI-Enabled Hiring
Episode 22: Credentials Aren’t Competence: The Hidden Risk in AI-Enabled Hiring

In this episode, I sit down with Thor Hesselberg, founder of WorkID.ai, to explore how AI is changing hiring, and why a convincing CV is no longer enough to establish trust.

We unpack:

  • Why AI makes polished resumes and fabricated profiles easier to create

  • Why candidate verification often happens too late in the hiring process

  • How identity and work history can be verified earlier

  • Why hiring is an access decision, especially for safety-critical roles

  • How AI-generated applications can disadvantage honest candidates

  • Why applicant tracking systems can’t verify the truth of self-reported information

  • How portable, verified work histories could reduce repeated checks

  • What leaders should ask their recruitment teams about verification

At the heart of our conversation is a simple idea:

When competence matters, trust is not enough.

Organizations need to verify identity, credentials, and experience at the source, before access is granted and before time is lost pursuing claims that don’t hold up.

That is The Edge.

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Episode 21: When Silence Becomes a Risk: Insights on Psychological Safety
Episode 21: When Silence Becomes a Risk: Insights on Psychological Safety

In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Peter Brace, author of Practical Psychological Safety in Asia Pacific, to explore why people stay quiet, how psychosocial hazards hide in plain sight, and what leaders can do to create conditions where the truth gets spoken early enough to matter.

We unpack:

  • Why silence is usually a social strategy, not a knowledge problem

  • What psychological safety really means

  • How overload, unclear roles, underwork, and exclusion affect teams

  • The conditions that make speaking up more likely

  • Why respect and accountability must work together

  • When leaders should use direct command and when they should invite open discussion

  • How hierarchy and culture influence people’s willingness to challenge authority

  • Why improving one team can be the first step toward wider organizational change

At the heart of our conversation is a simple idea:

Psychological safety is not about lowering standards. It is about creating a workplace where people can tell the truth, surface risk, learn faster, and make better decisions.

That is

The Edge.

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Episode 20: Becoming A Fully Resourced Leader
Episode 20: Becoming A Fully Resourced Leader

In this episode, I sit down with Rich Lohman to explore what it means to become a Fully Resourced Leader and make better decisions under pressure.

We unpack:

• What it means to be fully resourced as a leader

• Why leadership capacity matters when pressure and uncertainty increase

• How energy, knowledge, skills, confidence, emotional regulation, and support systems influence decision making

• Why leaders need to recognize both their strengths and their gaps

• The importance of inviting different perspectives and knowing when to ask for help

• How preparation before pressure arrives strengthens leadership judgment

• How coaching conversations can challenge assumptions, uncover blind spots, and build capacity

• Why being fully resourced isn't about having all the answers, but having the capacity to navigate complexity effectively

At the heart of it is a simple idea:

Better decisions under pressure don't happen by accident. They are built before the pressure arrives.

And when leaders develop the capacity to think clearly, recognize their limits, invite different perspectives, and draw on the right resources when it matters most—

that is The Edge.

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Episode 19: When Incidents Are Investigated but Nothing Changes
Episode 19: When Incidents Are Investigated but Nothing Changes

This episode explores what happens when organizations investigate incidents thoroughly, identify the causes, assign corrective actions—and yet meaningful change still doesn't happen.

We unpack:

  • Why completing an investigation doesn't necessarily mean an organization has learned

  • The difference between analysis and transformation

  • Why corrective-action closure can create a sense of completion without addressing deeper system conditions

  • How organizational pressures, assumptions, and workarounds can remain even after an incident

  • Why leaders need to look beyond "What happened?" and ask "What made this possible?"

  • The role of leadership in turning investigation findings into meaningful organizational change

  • How coaching conversations can challenge assumptions and create deeper learning

  • Why measuring completed actions is different from measuring whether the system has actually changed

  • How embedding lessons into everyday work creates stronger, more resilient organizations

At the heart of it is a critical shift:

An investigation can explain the past. Transformation changes the future.

And in that moment, when leadership stops asking, "Did we close the corrective actions?" and starts asking, "What is different now because this incident happened?"—

that is The Edge.

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